Shale Gas Stories – More Propane Hypocrisy

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The hypocrisy on the subject of propane that is exhibited by Gas Free Seneca’s “business coalition” is nothing less than staggering.  

If you think Gas Free Seneca hypocrisy on the propane issue is limited to its leadership installing a new home propane heating system in the middle of a battle against propane storage, you’re engaged in wishful thinking. There seems to be no end to it, in fact.

Following our report last week, we received numerous photos of propane usage by businesses who are listed by Gas Free Seneca as members of its “business coalition.” Some of the owners of these businesses have, ironically, been among the most prominent opponents of the proposed Crestwood Midstream storage facility.

Two Goats Buck Propane Storage

The headline a couple of weeks ago on the Time-Warner Cable News for Central New York was “Bar tradition aims to put a stop to proposed LPG facility on Seneca Lake” and here is an excerpt:

Hector, N.Y. — There’s quite an interesting custom at Two Goats Brewing in Hector.

“Everyone wants to see how the dollar bills get put up there,” said Jessica Rodgers, the co-owner of Two Goats Brewing.

The idea is to toss a bill with a thumbtack and get it to stay on the ceiling. The tradition started four years ago when the bar first opened and it’s grown ever since.

“We had no idea it would turn into thousands of dollars,” said Rodgers.

$3,009 to be exact. The money collected will go toward efforts to prevent a proposed LPG storage facility on Seneca Lake.

The article then goes on to quote the owner saying “”Considering most of the tourism we have here comes from Pennsylvania and the people who come up from Pennsylvania are dealing with fracking down there. They’re coming up here for the weekend to get away from it. That could turn around in one year.” All this time, I thought Pennsylvanians like me visited the Finger Lakes for the wine.  And, would someone please tell me what Pennsylvania fracking has to do with New York propane storage?

If you’re puzzled, perhaps the explanation is this: Rodgers doesn’t know the difference between natural gas and propane or how to spell h-y-p-o-c-r-i-t-e.  Why do I say that? Well, take a look at these two pictures of the Two Goats Brewery; one from their website showing an evening view and another daytime view below showing what you don’t see at night – a large propane tank.

Propane - Two GoatsDoes it occur to Rodgers the propane delivered by truck to the Two Goats Brewing tank doesn’t grow in fields with the hops? That it has to be produced, stored and distributed? Or, is this a case of knowing and not caring, of pandering to what she and her husband suppose is the politically correct view of their trendy customers?

Planet Ithaca Winery Owner Opposes Propane He Uses

Then there is a fellow named Lou Damiani who owns Damiani Wine Cellars. He also works in Planet Ithaca as part of Cornell University’s energy conservation team, the task of which is to implement its Climate Action Plan. A key element of that plan (pages 14-15) has been to shift from coal to natural gas to run its boilers, which has reduced its carbon footprint enormously. But, watch this video at 26:20 to see Damiani in action fighting the Crestwood LPG storage project, which would help deliver another good alternative to coal:

Damiani was also quoted in another Time-Warner news story as follows:

“The best laid plans of engineers go awry and that impacts all of us here,” said co-owner of Damiani Wine Cellars, Lou Damiani.

The potential for hazardous leaks, explosions, and constant noise and light pollution from the industry have local business owners worried about the area’s tourism.

“By some tourist magazines, the number one lake tourist spot in the world, in the world, and what do we want to do? We want to make it the industrial hub of north east gas distribution? That’s going to help us? I don’t think so,” Damiani said.

Damiani’s outrage, though, is selective. He, like his friends at Two Goats, uses the propane he opposes storing. Here is the propane tank at his winery:

Propane - Damiani

More Propane Hypocrisy

The largest winery operation on Seneca Lake displays similar hypocrisy. Glenora Wine Cellars has served as one of the meeting places for organized opposition to propane storage. But, like so many others in the Gas Free Seneca business coalition, its opposition is anything but consistent. Here’s a look at what we see on the north side of the facility’s operations:

Propane - Glenora

Some Propane Pomposity

One of the other businesses on the Gas Fee Seneca list is one appropriately named the Pompous Ass Winery. It has helped sponsor anti-fracking and anti-LPG events and provided free wine to participants. The winery’s website features a frontal picture of its two buildings. The photo is taken a slight angle, though, making it impossible to see what is located between the two buildings. Here’s a better shot:

Propane - Pompous Ass

These pictures start to provide a glimpse of the stunning hypocrisy on the part of Gas Free Seneca’s business coalition, but there’s more. Here are some of them:

Propane Hypocrisy

And. here is how some vineyards keep things from freezing:

Propane Powered Freeze Protection Fan in Vineyard

Propane Powered Freeze Protection Fan in Vineyard

There are many more, but not every winery and vineyard is opposed to storage of the propane they use. Some who are closest to the proposed facility and the existing natural gas storage facility, in fact, have no issues with it. The hypocrisy of those who do oppose it, though, is nothing less than staggering. That seems to be a common problem with LPG project opponents and fractivists these days. If there is anything pressing on the consciences of these folks to say “maybe we ought to be more reasonable, given that we use a lot of this stuff” it’s not readily apparent. No, what we have is hypocrisy on steriods. But, then again, that’s the way it always is with shale gas stories isn’t it?

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12 thoughts on “Shale Gas Stories – More Propane Hypocrisy

  1. I think the appropriate thing for the distributor’s to do is to pass on the cost of “fetching” the LPG from a storage facility farther away. The storage facility is a way to reduce the long transportation cost of the commodity to the area. But, none of this will ever happen. It parallels farmers co-op’s where one farmer goes against the grain and sells there product thus undermining the co-op’s ability to get a fair price. If I were a distributor nearby, I’d fore go their business and let them get the product from a distributor farther away. Usually the farther a company has to drive, the greater the bottom line to the customer.

  2. You nailed it on the Hypocrisy of Gas Free Seneca. I wish I had the forethought of snapping a picture when I drove through the area a few years ago and thought the vineyards were on fire. Turns out it was propane flaring due to a spring frost which would have killed the young grapes. In Comparison to well drilling flaring it looked like 1000 wells being flared all at once. The other point you could have made is that in the Video the key note speakers “Stiengraber Included” talk about keeping drilling out of the finger lakes because of tourism. There are hundreds of gas wells on winery property albeit vertical, they paid for the expansion and improvements of many of these wineries and now that these selfish owners have theirs the hell with everyone else..?

    Also Tom these anti LPG/Storage protestors talk about protecting there tourism dollars saying it is a 3 billion dollar industry I have to ask why Senator Chuck Schumer had to introduce a bill to get millions of dollars in subsidies to these privately owned wineries because of a harsh winter effecting their crops this year “Taxpayer Money”. Finally Tom Why are the people in this Video you provided the same people traveling to Albany and other “PARTS OF THE COUNTRY” fighting natural gas development in area’s that have no tourism..? in area’s where there is only farmers fighting to save there farm or maybe just tired of struggling 365 days a year just to break even. Why are they trying to deny the people of the southern tier who have lost 80,000 manufacturing jobs since 1985 the economic benefits that the industry will bring to those of us who don’t provide alcohol and don’t have tourist just blight and welfare recipients, and NYC drug dealers

  3. it is just the typical NIMBY attitude. Being an installer of midstream facilities, it does not surprise me. I have seen far worse than these pictures and stories. One attitude that also shows up is the jealousy factor. When one land owner makes a nice sum for their gas or mineral rights and others make ess, somehow they seem to complain, at least until they get what they want, money or attention

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  5. Tom, I’m curious about the kind of chemicals these wineries might employ on the surface uphill from the sacred lakes. Do you have any info on fertilizers, pesticides, herbicides or other agents they may use? What impact do they have on the local ground hog habitat?

    • they use the same chemicals a gas well uses at 2.5 lbs to a gallon of water… much more then a gas well unless its an 0rganic winery then they just p n poop on their vines and hope for the best

      • Ok next question. How do gas wells compare with wineries from a health impact standpoint? Do dwi deaths on the wine highway exceed gas well deaths? How many alcoholics are being furthered harmed thanks to wineries? I would bet there’s a few birth defects as a result of pregnant wineaholics, maybe a few suicides, boat accidents, or acts of vandalism. How about the spread of STDs? I’m sure wine could have an impact there.

  6. It is such a shame that the new age Blind secular religion clouds these subdized business owners. The fact is the organic waste materials from wineries make for great feedstock in the production of Bio Gas . Bio Gas can be Made pipeline spec and farmers with the royalties from Shale Gas Leases should be able to capitalize. Take the subsides away from business people making luxury goods and maybe you would see a change in attitude.

  7. There are many hypocrites among the fractivists. Almost all the members of the Tompkins County Legislature who oppose fracking heat their homes with natural gas or propane. All of them use fossil fuels. One of the most determined fractivists is even running for Congress and thinks “conservation” is the best fuel.

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