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Yesterday, Josh Fox demonstrated what an insolent man-child he is in a pathetic interview with Stuart Varney of FOX News about the EPA fracking study.
There’s no clearer indication of the gradual erosion of the fractivist position than Josh Fox’s implosion on Stuart Varney’s FOX News program yesterday. It was a pathetic crumbling of an insolent man-child confronted by a simple fact he could not accept, a fact which reduced him to calling Varney a liar and being shoved off the stage. It was Josh Fox, who lied, of course, and he took it still further with a ridiculous post-interview statement drafted, no doubt, with the help or inspiration of David Fenton or one of his other fixers on the NRDC payroll. That the EPA fracking study could produce such a self-immolation tells us what a shallow thing fractivism really is.
Here’s the interview, which we gleefully share with our readers (click to play and then use back button to return to here):
What a pitiful performance but Josh Fox doubled down with this message to his fractivist groupies (emphasis added):
Friend — Josh was kicked off of Fox’s Varney and Co. this morning after he called out host Stuart Varney on his hypocritical stance on fracking…
Varney said he wouldn’t frack his own land in upstate New York because it’s in a ‘watershed’ but promoted, on air, last week (while not letting Sandra Steingraber finish a sentence) that we should frack the rest of New York.
When Josh called him out on the hypocrisy and questioned Varney’s claim that he lit his tap water on fire, Varney became irate and told Josh “The interview is over. You are outta here young man.”
“If you said to me earlier that you would not want fracking in your own neighborhood, it’s irresponsible for you to say on air that the rest of America should frack,“ Josh can be heard saying to Varney as he’s being faded out.
Josh was on the program to address untrue headlines most of the mainstream media ran with claiming fracking was safe, following the release of a long-awaited EPA report on the practice.
In the report the EPA publicly confirmed for the first time that fracking contaminates groundwater. However their press release led with the misleading headline saying that EPA has found no ‘widespread’ evidence of water contamination.
As Josh explains on the show this is not the first time we’ve seen the EPA release a report where the science says one thing and then their PR department slaps on a press release that says something else. “EPA went into Dimock and said to people ‘do not drink your water’, in private letters and then in the press they came out and said well actually this water is safe,” Josh said on the show.
Please watch and share: Josh Fox takes on misleading EPA report, Obama administration’s support of fracking, and FOX host NIMBY.
Lee Ziesche, Grassroots Coordinator
This Josh Fox performance speaks for itself in so many ways; arrogant, condescending, trying to talk over the interviewer, wild accusations and, then, feigned hurt that anyone would dare challenge him. But, there’s more. Stuart Varney owns about 1,000 acres of land in Broome and Delaware Counties, New York. He’s only Josh Fox’s “neighbor” (as the latter suggested) to the extent someone an hour away is a neighbor, but their land is in the same Delaware River basin, if that counts.
Josh Fox asserted Varney is hypocritical because he wouldn’t allow fracking on his land, but wanted it elsewhere. This sort of mis-representation is the sort of sleight of hand on which the Garland movies are wholly based. Varney never says he wouldn’t allow fracking if permitted, but, rather, correctly states (at 3:34) his property is “in the watershed” not “a watershed.”
Anyone familiar with the area in question (as well as Josh Fox) knows exactly what Varney meant – the New York City water supply watershed, in which fracking wasn’t going to be permitted regardless of what New York State did. Moreover, his property is within both New York State and the Delaware River Basin Commission jurisdictions that don’t currently allow fracking.
Josh Fox knew this, of course, which means the basic premise of his accusation was a lie, carefully constructed to get the attention he wanted by accusing FOX News of hypocrisy, when he knew full well Varney couldn’t frack if he wanted to do so. Then, Varney points out a very simple incontrovertible fact; that people in the area of his Broome and Delaware County property were able to light their water on fire long before fracking was even a thought in the minds of any New Yorker, including Josh Fox.
Fox’s response wasn’t merely to “question Varney’s claim that he lit his tap water on fire,” as he suggests in his clean-up memo, but, rather, to say “I do believe you’re lying now,” preceded by several other bombastic statements suggesting there was no possibility of flaming faucets absent fracking.
This was the moment where Fox lit the match and self-immolated, not because it caused Varney to throw him off the program (Fox probably hoped for that, after all) but due to the sheer implausibility of his position. There isn’t anyone in that area, or in the scientific community for that matter, who doesn’t know Josh Fox’s statements are 100% pure bunk. Varney is precisely correct – folks have always been able to light their water on fire in that area, a point made very effectively not only in Truthland by a real Varney neighbor, but also in Cornell University research.
What caused this implosion was Fox’s frantic desire to undo the damage from the EPA fracking study, which was considerable. He blamed it, of course, on the “headlines” which he claimed were false. But, what Varney quoted wasn’t a headline – it was the precise statement issued by the EPA and, not only as part of a news release, but also within the main report.
Moreover, it was backed by specific case studies we reported on yesterday and, as we noted earlier, it most definitely didn’t say the hydraulic fracturing had polluted groundwater supplies unless you count the maybe statements, the possibilities, hydraulic fracturing at the same level as the groundwater (with no evidence of problems) or expand the definition to methane migration, which has nothing to do with the hydraulic fracturing process.
Yes, Josh Fox has imploded over this and, ironically, he did it on FOX News of all places. It tells you just how powerful the facts are in dispelling fractivists once the emotionalism has run its course and it has.