Nick Grealy
Administrator of NoHotAir/ReImagineGas Blog
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Josh Fox is a charlatan who’s made a career for himself staking out a radical position of fracking. Did he help elect Donald Trump in the process?
Which noisy New Yorker, product of a privileged family, blocked Hillary Clinton’s route to the Oval Office? No, not that one.
Josh Fox was director of Gasland, a documentary on the effects of US fracking filmed in 2009. The film spawned the anti-fracking movement first in the US, and then in Europe, most especially in France and the UK. He certainly helped elect Trump by energizing the anti-fracking forces around the Bernie Sanders “no fracking at all” supporters to either stay home or vote for Doctor Jill Stein the Green Party candidate.
Until Gasland, few people had no idea what fracking was, but the childish connection with the other “f” word soon came to be shorthand for being pro clean water and air and against fossil fuels. No one seems to have much of a problem consuming the light, heat, power, mobility and connectivity energy provides, but for complex reasons, the idea of producing energy scared enough people that by the time of the Democratic Primary in 2016, Bernie Sanders came out against fracking. He was notably silent on the local impact of reducing gasoline from $4 to less $2. Hillary made reasonable enough noises about regulation and reducing methane emissions but according to Wikileaks, she was frustrated during the campaign by anti-fracking activists who she advised to “get a life.”
The hard core anti fracking forces unleashed by Fox found a standard bearer in Jill Stein, Presidential candidate of the Green Party. After Ralph Nader handed the White House to George W. Bush by a wafer thin electoral majority in 2000, one would expect those who wanted to cast a protest vote might think carefully. They didn’t and today we have Trump as President-Elect.
Hillary Clinton, according to results at 0300 EST on November 13 at the New York Times won the popular vote by 638,750 but lost the Electoral College 290 to 228. Yet Clinton lost Wisconsin by a majority less than Jill Stein’s votes. It’s noteworthy that Clinton conceded after the AP gave Wisconsin to Trump. The same thing happened in Michigan, which is still not officially called, where Trump is ahead by 12,000 votes but Stein took over 50,000.
In other words, if there was no Green candidate, and progressive female votes went not to Stein but to Clinton, Donald Trump would probably be ahead in the Electoral College but at a far smaller gap. This is apart from the many who stayed home because Hillary wasn’t perfect on fracking. It”s even more complex if even a small number of the Libertarian Candidate Gary Johnson’s four million voters were originally Sanders voters.
The Green Party party describes itself as “eco-Socialist and anti-war, propagating environmentalism and social justice” It is hard to conceive that those values would appeal equally to Trump and Clinton voters. This year Stein had a big improvement over her 2012 tally of 469,501 votes at over 1,200,000. Trump could still have a razor thin Electoral College lead, but have lost the popular vote by millions – hardly an advertisement for a democratic mandate and especially ironic considering his pre-election rigged election claims.
This horrifying possibility caused a guilt ridden Fox to reply to a Twitter post from me for the first time in years:

A far more talented film maker than Fox is Ethan Coen who wrote this in the New York Times under the headline 2016 Election Thank You Notes. I’ve underlined what I think is the key message green opponents of fracking should learn. Too bad it’s too late.
2016 Election Thank You Notes.
Such a surprise! So many people to thank!
Jill Stein voters: You helped elect a man who pledges that he will, in his first hundred days, cancel contributions to United Nations programs to fight climate change. If your vote for Ms. Stein did not end up advancing your green agenda, it did allow you to feel morally superior to all the compromising schmoes who voted for Hillary Clinton. And your feelings about your vote are more important than the consequences of your vote. So — thank you!
Josh Fox alone didn’t put Trump in the White House. But, he certainly gave him a leg up.
Editor’s Note: Nick and I have quite different political views, but we agree on shale and his analysis is on the money in this case, however one might feel about the candidates. The petulant Josh Fox is the face of the fractivist movement and he forced Hillary Clinton to utter some very anti-fracking things in public; things like this at one of the Democrat debates:
“I don’t support it when any locality or any state is against it, number one. I don’t support it when the release of methane or the contamination of water is present,” she said at the forum in Flint, Michigan. “By the time we get through all of my conditions, I do not think there will be many places in America where fracking will continue to take place, and I think that’s the best approach.”
Clinton, of course, said other things in private, which is, perhaps, the much bigger point here, but she felt the pressure from Josh Fox types to pander to their cause, so she did for the cameras and it hurt her badly. How badly is revealed by what happened in Pennsylvania, where she lost the rural areas with shale gas by huge margins including adjacent areas such as Luzerne County (Wilkes-Barre area) that heretofore reliably voted Democrat but went 58% for Trump this time (due in no small part to the rallying efforts of shale supporters). It went 52% Obama in 2012.
Bradford County went 71% Trump after voting 61% Romney in 2012. Greene County went 70% versus 58% Romney in 2012. Lycoming County (Williamsport) went 71% Trump compared to 66% for Romney. It was 73% in Sullivan County (63% Romney), 69% in Susquehanna County (60% Romney), 75% in Tioga County (where Fox hangs out on occasion) as compared to 67% Romney, 61% in Washington County (56% Romney) and 67% in Wyoming County (55% Romney). These are all prime shale areas that Clinton lost badly. Catering to the charlatan certainly didn’t help her.
Meanwhile, in the Empire State, the land of Governor Corruptocrat, he has decided to double down, coming out with an astoundingly radical statement saying he was “soul sick” about the way these red areas voted. Seeking to outdo himself he even resorted to this hateful statement, calling out his own upstate areas as racist based on a single incident of someone spray-painting something ugly (as if such things haven’t been repeatedly faked by haters on all sides):
“We cannot unhear what we have heard. The voices of the Ku Klux Klan, white nationalism, authoritarianism, misogyny and xenophobia. A generally disdainful view of American ideals.”
It was, in a word, pathetic; so political one can only conclude it was the launch of the Cuomo 2020 campaign, which says a lot about the arrogance of the man. He, of course, bragged that “While the world struggles to come to consensus on how to combat climate change, we in New York have banned fracking and set a renewable energy standard requiring 50% of our electricity to come from renewable energy sources like wind and solar by 2030.”
Good luck with all that, as they say. His campaign will have little leadership given how many Cuomo sycophants are headed to jail. His fracking decision has condemned upstate to poverty, while leaving him standing alone among the states with shale resources. His renewable program is will cause further skyrocketing of electricity rates and speed up the exodus from the state.
What Governor Corruptocrat doesn’t seem to grasp is this; it is precisely this nonsense and the slobbering over Josh Fox types that caused Pennsylvania to go Trump in 2016. That particular New York State of mind doesn’t play well outside the Manhattan, but a rough-cut guy raised in Queens who went to the Marcellus Shale Coalition “Shale Insight” conference this year to promote fracking did pretty darn well, didn’t he? There’s a lesson here, it seems.



excellent observations Nick. I could add to this that shale country’s vote for Trump in Penn State was reflected in practically every county in America with Shale Gas. Josh Fox embodies the arrogant urbanite frackivist who does not get where rural folk get their incomes from . Funny with all these so called health problems of fracking the Joss Fox Class point to the people in the affected communities voted overwhelmingly TRUMP. Love for energy and economic independence TRUMPS ALL.
Yes Josh Fox and others like him helped Trump win the whitehouse. American home harvested energy was a key point in the debates and in President Trumps commercials. On advice from5 Josh Fox type thinkers Hilliary stated she planned to put millions in the coal industry and oil and gas out of work. Once again in this country voters have mandated that climate change alarmnist are just that and should be seen and not heard
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/11/14/shot-in-the-back-at-standing-rock.html?
Vic… I am passing this on. What I think only part of the problem is but a big part at that is the antifracking movement dominates the conversation as they are all over the press.
I think they are one of the most alarming things happening in the environmental scene so to speak and the most alarming part of the antifracking movement is in ny, from ny and in the Easter united states. This is the movement fighting natural gas development , pipelines etc and basically saying natural gas might have no environmental benefits over coal when it comes to the climate change issue.
So for me climate change is a real issue, risk and concern, needs to be addressed but the antifracking movement is a problem.
While Josh fox was not for Stein and actually said so, I think that the antifracking movement , Bernie Sanders picks for democratic platforming writing committee and bill mckibben hurt the democrats in this election season and their candidate Clinton as well.
But where was the press? There were reports about the antifracking Bernie Sanders faction attempting to get a ban fracking agenda on the democratic platform and then criticisms against Clinton’s picks in the press preventing this from happening.
Remember John hanger writing that op Ed about this?
Seems to me like the democrats need to decide whether they are the ban fracking party or not. And energy should have been covered in the election more, especially fracking and natural gas.
Karen Orlando such was a subtext to the narrative the Climate change Candidates presented. You out in Rural America should bow down and wither much like “The Grapes of Wrath” . I personally think the dems have been hijacked by the likes of Josh Fox and Tony the Tiger. That pathway will hassen they extinction lets hope. When one is in a very small group of opinion it is usually viewed as a religious cult. We all know where many cults end up
Unfortunately when Clinton out out her sheet on natural gas well if you asked me she came under pressure by the banfracking /progressive/ Bernie Sanders faction.
Also I noticed it wasn’t until recently that Obama mentioned the fracking word specific to natural gas ans it wasn’t that it was bad for the environment or climate.
I assume you live in ny? We use natural gas and have had pipeline expansions in recent years to deliver more gas into the downstate area. This happened while the fracking debate in ny raged and I think as you and I both know it has long been obvious that this antifracking pipeline movement isnt just unreasonable. It is also misinforming the public massively and it dominates in the press.
I encourage you to raise your voice and your concerns however you can. I have been writing reporters and others for years myself.
Karen Orlando I dont live in New York State nor America for that matter. It is Nova Scotia Canada where I live. Full born Canadian working against transplanted Yanks being responsible for a ban on fracking in this province.Barb Harris is one of the transplanted operatives in my county and she is almost as bad as Vera. I follow events in America very closely and what is not told is Natural Gas is making for Cleaner Urban environments like NYC where over 2000 buildings are using combined heat and power thus reducing emissions of many types. The Trump win in Shaleland was a total rebuff of Josh Fox and the Antis. Here the Wheeler Report on Hydraulic Fracking stated that the provincial government would need a social license from communities to have this great technology occur. In shaletown USA the voters gave TRump the Social License so they would not be having their hands out for Social Welfare like we have with Villages in Nova Scotia Rejecting the economic lifeline. The Provincial government of Nova Scotia has shutt down two objectionist communities elementary schools because the enrollments are plummeting.
The trouble with this argument is that you win both ways round.
Green voters go for Hillary (to keep Trump out), she supports fracking, and we’re told that there is a democratic mandate for fracking.
Green voters vote green, Trump gets in, and it’s all the fault of the greens.
You should vote for the candidate whose policies you believe in. Perhaps now the Democrats will rethink their approach to energy
well a divided Anti fracing vote maybe the case Paul S however even combining their votes would essentially make no difference in many counties including a Weld County Colorado. Trump bet the standard barriers of Climate Change by 20 percentage points. I think a great deal has to be said for “entertainers” like Yoko Ono, Jimmy Fallon , Mark Ruffulo and others lecturing Rural Folk on what good for them . An Ivory Tower mentality that is clouded by blind idealism is the very undoing of a Hillary Clinton. This first female major party presidential candidate can blame Entertainers whom seem to believe their own hype to her defeat in Shaleland.
one has to love that the two poster child counties of frackivism in the USA voted Trump in a margin of 40 percentage points over Clinton. Not much of a Jill Stein nor Gary Johnson spoiler effect there. Susquehanna county (infamous for Dimock) Trump Plus 43 percent over HRC. Fremont County Wyoming(infamous of Pavillon) Trump 42 percent over HRC. Johnson and Stein had absolutely no effect in those counties. The Anti-Fracing Democrats ignored the truthful science on fracing.
Please see my recent article
Goodwin, R.W. “We Have a New President: How Will it Affect Energy and Environmental Issues?” Natural Gas Now; November 10, 2016
Energy and environmental issues have long been solved according to political correctness instead of by experts; with our new President that may change.
Posted on November 10, 2016 by Natural Gas Now Guest Blogger
https://naturalgasnow.org/new-president-affect-energy-and-environmental-issues/