Now We Know, Dimock Activists May Have Been Shills for Hire, Not Victims

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Dimock activists who have been parading around the country telling tales of horror about fracking were being apparently being paid all along to shill.

We always knew it had to be the case. Craig Stevens and Ray Kemble have been traveling the U.S. for years putting on a road show so ludicrous as to make the original Cardiff Giant story seem credible by comparison. They claimed Ray Kemble’s water was polluted by Cabot. They put out videos looking aghast at water reports and spinning the results to suggest the water was undrinkable.

They pulled every trick in the book and offered zero credibility except with those who wanted desperately to believe fracking was evil. They were sponsored guests at one Food & Water Watch fiasco after another where they painted themselves as innocent victims only desirous of warning others. And, now we learn they were shills for hire, or at least appear to be.

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This was the big news that came out of the Pig to Rigs lawsuit today in the Susquehanna County Court of Common Pleas as Judge Jason Legg heard four matters. The first and most important was a motion by Kemble to quash the subpoena issued to him to appear for a deposition by Cabot. Kemble was there and spoke for himself, although he continued to be represented by Raiders during the proceedings.

Cabot Attorney Amy Barrette opened the discussion with an incredibly eye-opening statement, noting that Cabot had depositioned Craig Stevens. Stevens and Bill Huston had both been given power of attorney by Kemble and both were subpoenaed for depositions. Stevens apparently acceded to his and Barrette summarized some key facts learned, including that Stevens and Kemble were, during all those appearances around the country, being paid by FrackAction, Food & Water Watch and Catskill Mountainkeeper, et al to the tune of up to $5,000 per month.  Perhaps that accounts for the $42,000 Food & Water Watch oddly gave the Mountainkeeper in 2016.

We’ll undoubtedly learn more as things proceed with the case, but these revelations alone are startling. We never pretend, here at NaturalGasNOW, to be anything other than an advocate for the industry, landowners and the rural citizenry at large. I have always acknowledged having industry clients, Kemble and Stevens, by contrast, have always portrayed themselves as nothing more than innocent victims and spokespersons for other victims, current and future. Stevens, in particular, has carried this banner, together with a jug or two of water supposedly dirtied by fracking.

Now, we’re getting closer to the truth. Some Dimock activists were apparently being paid along the way. There’s nothing wrong about that when it’s disclosed, of course, but how many of those attendees at ginned up protests, where they appeared to speak, knew they were being paid? Darned few, I expect. And, how New York State legislators knew, when Craig Stevens was motor-mouthing a speech to them about what was happening in Pennsylvania, that he was representing someone other than himself? How many news reporters thought, when they interviewed the colorful Stevens and Kemble, that they were perhaps being paid to talk? Just amazing.

There was still more to the proceedings today, though. Kemble, though he was there, stood through the hearing on his motion and his attorney’s motion to withdraw from the case. Barrette brought out that Kemble had previously backed out of his deposition on the excuse of health at the same time he had flown to California for a Food & Water Watch event. She pointed out Kemble had, in fact, had multiple opportunities to being be deposed and avoid sanctions, Following discussions, it was agreed the parties would attempt to do the deposition sometime in mid-March, pending medical evaluation, with a resumption of the hearing on March 29th, giving Kemble yet another chance to avoid sanctions.

Following this agreement, the court took up the matter of Attorney Rich Raiders’ motion to be allowed to withdraw from representing Kemble. Raiders reiterated what was in his motion and discussed thoroughly here. He also offered exhibits to make his case and called out Bill Huston for playing attorney and interfering with the case to Kemble’s detriment. Kemble than got up and publicly fired Raiders. Barrette objected noting how Kemble’s lack of attorney could have dire consequences for him and the case. She suggested a conditional withdrawal; that is to say Raiders should be able to withdraw only after Kemble secured a new attorney, Kemble said he’d have one by March 29th and, therefore, that was how the matter was left.

Jule Ann Skinner, who had worked with Pigs to Rigs lawyer Charlie Speer appeared next. She gave various poor excuses for not agreeing to a deposition, but volunteered to give one in the next 60 days.

That left Bill Huston, who also wanted his subpoena quashed. He claimed to have not been served properly, so Cabot had him served again by the Sheriff in the presence of the Judge; another bizarre moment in Pigs to Rigs saga. Huston had no legal counsel but said he might get one now and, therefore, the court ordered a continuance on his motion until March 29. Huston had marched up to the table with a filebox but claimed he had no interest in being an attorney and meant no respect to the court in acting to assist his friend, Ray Kemble. Then he took a dig at Raiders saying Kemble had functionally had no attorney because Raiders had done such a bad job. One wonders how he knew that then if he didn’t fancy himself an attorney, but, hey, whatever.

The most interesting and sad thing is that Bill Huston started off by stating “I am an indigent.” It was his way of saying he couldn’t afford to pay an attorney, and it’s apparently true based the money Bill regularly solicits these days on his blog to pay his most basic bills. Bill doesn’t much care for me, but I hold no grudge against him. He’s a true believer, not a con man, as I see it.

Meanwhile, we hear in court the friends he’s defending and possibly getting himself in deep trouble over have been getting money from the likes of Food & Water Watch all along. Did Bill get any of that money? If he did, I’ll get it was very little and that is what is so especially sad about his situation. Likewise, Ray Kemble seems to have been used by other players, but that’s another story. Stay tuned as things evolve and more truth seeps out.

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77 thoughts on “Now We Know, Dimock Activists May Have Been Shills for Hire, Not Victims

  1. I was there in the courtroom. It was pathetic to watch these people who once disrupted Albany hearings, town board meetings and schoolhouse gatherings with an arrogance second to none, sit there and face in a court of law the consequence of actions.

    It was enlightening (and expected by those of us in attendance) to hear the evidence presented and how these people were on the payroll of anti-drilling New York drilling organizations. Bill Huston once told the Port Crane Town board that he was a scientist. Apparently, he’s likely now to face charges of practicing law Without a law degree.

    Now we know the motive behind the the activism of people like Huston, Craig Stevens and poor Ray Kemble, It wasn’t cause and effect from the drilling operations but that old motivator called money.

    Where was Sandra Steingraber, Mark Ruffalo, Anthony ingraffea, etc.? why were they not there to support the people they held so high at all the anti-drilling rallies in Albany and elsewere around New York State?

    Will Governor Cuomo ever see that the lies presented in Albany, the thousands of signatures raised on the backs of false testimony from the above and the litigants in this lawsuit and their failure to provide any proof other than the canceled checks on which they were collecting from Food and Water Watch and other foundations that supported them.

    Just based on what little we heard today in Montrose, Governor Cuomo should rethink his extended moratorium in New York and put the real science forward allowing drilling to move forward both in New York and the DRBC.

    • Wow. Well I have seen Sandra tweeting “in solidarity” as they say with Kemble, who she refers to as a friend. I’m reading Craig Stevens deposition that was provided in the comments here and it’s fascinating. It’s really a shame that reporters will not look into what the activists in this movement have been doing for years, because it is truly astonishing, and I have tried myself to get them to do so now for years.

      • Yes it is fascinating. In fact it’s the first time in my life that I read over 300 pages in one afternoon. Craig and Ray may have committed income tax evasion according to his testimony. He said he was paying Ray $500 a week for driving a water truck but he never gave Ray a 1099 and Ray wasn’t paying income tax on it. There’s also issues about Craig taking money from Food And Water Watch and The Catskill Mountain Keeper and how he was handling that money. Then according to the deposition F&WW was funneling money to Craig through the Mountain Keeper for some reason. Very interesting reading indeed.

      • I provided this blog to our media and to governor Cuomo via letter and facebook. I called the local media and asked why they didnt cover the court proceedings the answer, we only had one reporter on Monday
        P O P P Y C O C K

        • Mmm. hhm. Well I contacted the nytimes back in 2016 when a sane energy activist who had been misrepesenting reality for years was used as a source twice and have contacted reporters and editors for years now. Their failures are mind blowing and widespread. How in heck can the same people show up all over the place, at hearings, protests, arrests etc that are covered by “the media” for years and “the media” doesn’t recognize the same groups and people nor that a whole lot of what they are saying is miles from reality?

          I don’t understand how organizations from rhe Sierra club to food and water watch and Catskill mountainkeeper and 350org and on it goes are seen as legitimate sources for info by reporters or the public or politicians at this point.

          https://mobile.twitter.com/SaneEnergy/status/1092074698408714241

      • we may be on different sides of a very important issue but God says we are all one in his image. I wish no illness on anyone

        • Multiple strains of cancer after living 500 ft from a Cabot gas well under repair. Not unexpected and yes – those who call him a liar – like you – have not helped.

          Maybe God will understand since there is so much profit to be made.

          • That didn’t take long…now blaming Cabot for rays cancer. The real cancer is you… grow up and quit VICTIMIZING your friends to meet your agenda

          • Maybe that benzene and toluene, that was in his water before drilling, or that cigar he smokes caused his cancer. Do you have proof it was caused by Cabot ?? I’d be careful about accusing Cabot without proof.

  2. Regardless of personal feelings/opinions of those involved in today’s proceedings, the question remains, if the company responsible for all the controversy is completely innocent, then why are the landowners in the 9 sq. mile area of Dimock still being held hostage by the dep consent order?

      • IN reality – if you did a media inquiry with Colleen Connoly from DEP – she would tell you testing shows the methane levels have no returned to normal. One set of testing I saw last time I was there in ’17 was running 23K ppm – almost explosive – that’s years after the original contamination.

        As a PR hack for Cabot – I would not expect you to admit that.

        Even right wing pundits and experts finally admit Cabot did pollute the Dimock aquifer. Ask Engelder.

        Once you try and take Cabot’s position that the whole thing is made up you look really really bad Tom.

        I look forward to driving that point home over the next year.

        Did Cabot pollute the Dimock aquifer Tom?

        Yes or no – or answer any way you can.

        I’ve asked you for 3 years – you never could reply.

        • Jan, please answer the following question:

          if there’s contaminated water in Susquehanna County, why don’t any of the 58 continuous water quality monitoring stations operated by the Susquehanna River Basin Commission ever detect that contamination?

          Those sensors have been deployed since 2010, and transmit readings every 5 minutes. And then there’s the lab tests that also get taken to make sure the remote sensors are working. https://www.srbc.net/

          • There is no if.
            DEP isotopic testing proved Cabot gas is in the water.
            Predrill testing showed no hydrocarbons in the water before drilling.

            It’s no curious thing. Just the lies of Tom and others and the desire for cash have caused some of you to leave your critical thinking skills behind.

            There is no continuous water monitoring of these water wells.

          • Jan, there’s no “reply” button on your reply, so I’ll put it here. Please cite the source of your claim that “DEP isotopic testing proved Cabot gas is in the water.
            Predrill testing showed no hydrocarbons in the water before drilling.”

            All of the lab results I found on the DEP web site had the names and addresses redacted. And I don’t think the DEP did any predrill testing. Who did that, and where can we see the results?

            “There is no continuous water monitoring of these water wells.” Maybe not, but there is continuous monitoring of the Susquehanna River. If your claim of contamination is correct, why doesn’t any of it end up in the river?

            The DEP updated their excel file of Water Supply Determination Letters (available on line) on February 4th, 2019. There have been 24 determinations in Dimock since January 2009: one in 2009, eighteen in 2010 (all in the Dimock/Carter Road Area as defined in 15 Dec 2010 Consent Order between DEP and Cabot), one in 2011, one in 2013, two in 014, and one in 2018.

            Cabot was required to conduct a series of actions to mitigate water quality problems and was required to send samples over a period of at least 8 quarters after the water quality was restored. I can’t find copies of any report from Cabot to the DEP, but I also can’t find any further Determination Letters suggesting that Cabot failed to carry out their required actions.

            And I also note that the number of Determination Letters for Dimock sent since 2010 is four. This would indicate to me that there is no overwhelming water quality problem in Dimock as a result of natural gas development. As I have pointed out to you before, the PA Rural Conservancy has reported for years that 40% of the fresh water wells drilled in PA do not meet at least one Federal water quality standard.

    • 100% Kim & I live this every day The Hell Cabot Has Lyed To the people Just as Bad as the DEP ! played in to the pockets full of crap ! They have used any means posible to Just Blow off The peoples life they Ruined ,
      as for DEP they Pushed three Auto’s down our property to feel safe But yet we Must stay over having Animals That Depend on us !
      Tell me all ya like on how Great Cabot is But Come fix our water suppy in the well water First .
      Don’t Keep Blowing smoke!
      knowing its all about the Money from Gas now.

    • Right …Matt. The Company called Cabot has almost 900 DEP violations so far and are not “innocent” and that’s why nine sq. miles in Dimock are still off limits….
      But Shepstone and his buddies will defend Cabot to the death or to the last paycheck….

      • Vera,

        Here’s an extract from a DEP Oil and Gas Inspections file for Susquehanna County, Cabot Oil and Gas:

        Insp Viol
        2007 12 3
        2008 231 75
        2009 382 64
        2010 369 79
        2011 441 141
        2012 321 31
        2013 346 40
        2014 618 54
        2015 967 15
        2016 1542 47
        2017 1386 33
        2018 1504 54

        That’s over 8,100 inspections and 636 violations, or 7.8%. And a violation can be for paperwork errors, a worker not wearing personal protective equipment, and a variety of other minor items having no impact on the environment.

        Notice the increase in inspections per year, and the violation rates all being 3% or lower every year starting in 2015.

        DEP appears to be doing their job, and Cabot has made major improvements in compliance.

        You never seem to notice facts like these.

  3. I’m shocked, SHOCKED, to find that there’s dishonesty going on here. (Apologies to ‘Casablanca’).

    Regarding the last sentence in the above excellent piece – Kemble having been used by other players – that is exactly the situation in which Chief Archie and his Gang found themselves during the DAPL/Standing Rock fiasco.

    In the North Dakota situation, well funded outside interests (several of whom are currently the targets of an ongoing RICO lawsuit), took over much of the disruptive, violent actions which have left an intensely embittered residue directed against the Sioux tribes.

    Oh well. Dine at the Devil’s table, don’t be surprised at the consequences.

  4. Here’s Craig Stevens deposition. There’s some interesting information in it. First he denies taking money from Food And Water Watch then at about page 230 he cracks and admits it. It also appears to me that he is throwing Ray under the bus with some of his answers. It’s definately worth taking the time to read it.

    https://www.scribd.com/document/398910339/Craig-Stevens-Transcript?fbclid=IwAR3spa5uYrEYAEv9nPdpHUIHT_2zTmfX72vM0lrV8XXHZHFRzeXhVu8kmpk

      • Aren’t you the person who gave me the “sealed” court records from the Hallowell (might have misspelled this) legal proceedings where we argued about “gag orders”? Was that legal?

        • Barry,

          “Aren’t you the person who gave me the “sealed” court records from the Hallowell (might have misspelled this) legal proceedings where we argued about “gag orders”? Was that legal?”

          Nope – not me.

        • “Evidence in a public trial is public information and it is not illegal to share.”

          In the case of Fracknation the film used of a deposition was only available to the litigants. Range gave Phelim the film so Phelim could adjudicate their case against their victims in the public forum through lies

          I’m not sure yet in this case if it was legal for Cabot to give Phelim the transcript but will soon.

          I look forward to publicly posting the coming depositions from our side – since y’all set the precedent here.

  5. Well Mark Twain is supposed to have said. A gold mine is a hole in the ground with a liar standing on top of it.

    How fitting that saying is in light of the testimony

  6. I also attended the court proceedings. This group of folks kept saying they were “grassroots” and would even pass around a coffee can for donations while their masters at the Catskill Mountainkeeper, Food and Water Watch, and Frackaction had them on their payrolls. I attended many anti gas meetings and saw this behavior constantly. The worst part of all of this is that Stevens and Kemble are PA residents, yet never missed a chance to invade NY and protest right along with paid reps of groups like Citizen Action, NYPIRG, Common Cause and many other “non – profit” groups. It would seem that there MAY be grounds for IRS involvement into all of this as Frackaction, Catskill Mountainkeeper, and Food and Water Watch are all 501(c)(3) “non – profits. Seems like that paying Stevens and Kemble money to lobby, which is prohibited by the IRS, is a straw man activity that should be investigated by the feds. Expecting NY to check into this is ludicrous because these NGO’s are a shadow government and Cuomo hires these types all the time. His present DEC Commissioner Basil Seggos came from the Natural Resources Defense Council and the former commissioner was Joe Martens who also was the past president of the Catskill Mountainkeeper.

  7. where is Vera? doesn’t she have something to say? seems like she posts 5 seconds after Tom posts anything. like she waits all day for a chance to spew out her propaganda and opinions. The truth comes out!!, but too little too late for NY and DRBC landowners. the damage is already done.

  8. Truthfinder, EU, Coffeeguyz – wait Tom – I though you said people could only post here if they use their real names??

    ICMU

  9. “Now We Know, Dimock Activists May Have Been Shills for Hire, Not Victims”

    So – you’d only be referring to Ray there – no one else involved lives in Dimock.

        • Jan, you are correct.

          Craig Stevens didn’t live in Dimock. But he sure did get paid.

          Read the transcript of his 31 Jan 19 deposition, where we also find out:

          He lived at 1527 Silver Creek Road, Montrose in Silver Lake township from January 2010 to September 2014. This residence is less than 2 miles from Salt Springs State Park and is about 11 miles north of the Dimock/Carter Road Area. He had a gas lease and pipelines running across his property.

          And we also learned that two of the documents Ray brought with him to the deposition were water test results from Ray Kemble’s well water. One is dated July 7, 2008 and the second is dated 20 Jun 2008. And these pre-drilling well water tests indicated the presence of benzene and toluene in Ray Kemble’s well water.

          I don’t have copies of those test results, or of the tests done in 2017. However, here’s a pull quote from the attorney conducting the deposition:

          “Earlier you said, we were talking, I asked you if you knew what benzene was and what toluene was and you said they were cancer causing – highly cancerous I believe you said BTEX and that you wouldn’t drink water that had it in it, and here we have Mr. Kemble’s predrill test before any drilling was done showing that he had benzene and toluene in his water and yet you stood up in front of these regulatory bodies and said that his water was totally fine before drilling, correct?”

  10. Tom’s antiquated comment system does not post a reply button.

    Vic,

    “Multiple strains of cancer after living 500 ft from a Cabot gas well under repair. Not unexpected and yes – those who call him a liar – like you – have not helped.” Me

    “That didn’t take long…now blaming Cabot for rays cancer. The real cancer is you… grow up and quit VICTIMIZING your friends to meet your agenda” Vic

    It would not be unexpected when you live 500 ft from an industrial clean up zone that you might get cancer.

    Note how I point out the obvious – and you as trained try to use that to make me look evil.

    “As trained” is the important element there.

    My agenda is to raise millions to help these victims. I know – that makes me soooo evil and hateful in the eyes of Tom and his team here.

  11. Tom’s antiquated comment system fails often.

    Barry,

    ” Please cite the source of your claim that “DEP isotopic testing proved Cabot gas is in the water.
    Predrill testing showed no hydrocarbons in the water before drilling.””

    “1/29/2009

    Based on the existing geochemical data set, we can conclude that the origin of the stray gases detected in the Florentino and Sautner water wells (nine samples analyzed thus far: two stray gas,seven potential sources) is thermogenic in origin, consistent with natural gas from Devonian production.

    The gas found in these water wells is not consistent with
    microbial gas that occurs in some shallow aquifer systems.

    Results for the stable carbon & hydrogen isotope analyses reveal the gases from the gas wells can be further categorized as:

    1) natural gas from formations of middle/upper Devonian origin.

    2) Marcellus gas. The stray gas in the water wells is consistent with the gas from the formations above the Marcellus. Other lines of evidence will be necessary to identify which specific gas well(s) have contaminated the groundwater system. Additionally, we have requested
    the lab to also analyze for the stable nitrogen isotopes and the stable carbon isotopes for C2. These analyses will be available late today or early tomorrow and should help to further refine this interpretation.
    The data will not change the interpretation, but may reveal mixing between Upper Devonian production and Marcellus gas

    — Fred Baldassare, P.G. Geologist Department of Environmental Protection”

    Not naturally occurring biogenic gas a Cabot still claims.

    Also references by Hanger st the church meeting:
    ““We have observed gas bubbling, we have observed gas leaking, we have video taped these matters. We have reported pressures that are by any reasonable standard that are consistent with problems that have been reported here (water pollution). WE have done sophisticated gas testing to source that gas. That testing completely identifies this gas a coming from Cabot wells”
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5m3POfHqPaU&t=

    Cabot hired Danial Farnham I think (off the top of my head) to do the predrill testing. No hydrocarbons in any of the tests. Once Cabot polluted the water Cabot had all the predrill testing thrown out. Ray Kemble has his predrill done elsewhere and it was not thrown out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNrh1KsGXa0

    Tom lies to you. He knows the truth. If he posts this reply I will offer him some respect for allowing some truth on these pages.

    If you’ve gone all this time thinking these victims are frauds and liars and now you find you were lied to – would that upset you?

    • Jan, nice try on citing a lab test from 2009 to represent that the water quality in 2019 is messed up. Cabot completed their required cleanup work before the end of 2011. DEP agreed. Game over.

      Got any more recent data? Show me.

      The thing that upsets me is the activities of paid shills, “activists”, out of town millionaires like Tom Steyer and the clowns at the Park Foundation, the Schmidt Family Fund, The Heinz Fund, Food and Water Watch, the nut jobs like “The” Delaware Waterkeeper, the NRDC gang that has infiltrated the NY DEC, and Andrew Cuomo’s relentless refusal do anything except pander to those who give him campaign contributions. The virtue signalling bums who fly in to get media coverage in a feeble attempt to restart their acting or music careers. Those people upset me.

      Reading the Stevens transcript makes me think I don’t want to step out and have a beer with him, and I do think he’s a fraud and a liar. It will be interesting to see what the Kemble/Huston dream team come up with towards the end of March. This story is far from over.

      • My hope is that it is found that Stevens and Kemble are just the tip of the iceberg and that Frackaction, Catskill Mountainkeeper, and Food & Water Watch are just the start of the exposure of what these groups have been up to regarding paying shills. What’s interesting is that Catskill Mountainkeeper is at Binghamton University indirectly through a “non – profit” called Southern Tier Solar Woks which is a satellite of Binghamton Regional Sustainability Coalition. STSW claims that they have a “partnership” with the Mountainkeeper and NRDC – https://www.binghamton.edu/cce/ccedatabase/vieworg.php?oid=M0IwMjE2 Don’t be surprised if the NRDC and Sierra Club are dragged in as well. What really needs to happen is for Cabot to get their hands on this Senate report and have their lawyers start digging – http://www.epw.senate.gov/public/_cache/files/6ce8dd13-e4ab-4b31-9485-6d2b8a6f6b00/chainofenvironmentalcommand.pdf This group of billionaire foundations mentioned in the report and their lackey “non -profit” 501(C)(3)s have to be stopped and NY landowners have their mineral rights restored.

    • Never ceases to amaze and amuse that you and your ilk come across as demanding that gas drilling be without problems or risk.

  12. Barry,

    A leaking gas well will not pollute a river 30 miles away.

    The determination letters are proof Cabot polluted these wells. They don’t go back year after year and put out a new letter for each case. The 9 mile moratorium stays in place because according to DEP the methane levels in the water have no returned to normal.

    After Cabot was allowed to frack in 2012 gas wells that had been drilled years earlier – more cases occurred: 2 houses down from Ray: https://www.pressconnects.com/videos/news/local/2015/11/23/76264562/

    • Jan, it’s 11 miles from the “Dimock/Carter Road” area to the Susquehanna River at Meshoppen, and you keep talking about the aquifer. The ground level at Meshoppen is about 500’ lower than the level in Dimock, so if there’s contamination in the aquifer in Dimock one might expect that it would end up moving downhill and into the river.

      I told you before, and I’ll tell you again: give me credible references to actual lab work, not biased media reporting by local newsies with no observable reporter skills or investigative talent. The PSB is as competent as Bob Howarth’s PSE: zero equals zero.

      • just look at the new water line and how fast its going in to the new dollar store on rt 29 south of Springville pa.

        Ask how come that is now ?

    • I’ve been waiting since Dec. 17, 2014 for all the Press and Sun Bulletin articles about NY farmers and landowners who have had to sell their farms and land because they could not lease their mineral rights to gas companies thanks to Cuomo and his buddies in the environmental movement. The poverty and destitution in NY thanks to the efforts of you, Ray, Craig, Vera, the news media, and a host of others is deplorable. You’ve helped to destroy the dreams and aspirations of countless thousands not to mention the taking of their mineral rights. I’m still waiting for the articles.

  13. It’s not a job…It’s a career… 7 lawyers all paid hundreds of thousands from sucker members of the Sierra club… how much you taking in your business venture Jan?

    • Have you looked at the EPA PowerPoint?

      Have you looked at the Methane Migration investigation /GW Vistas done by Lindsay Byron & Pelepko from DEP as well as Cabot?

      How come the Attorney General is investing?

      I’ve invited Vic & Tom many times but they don’t show. Come see a moldy, disgusting, non functioning “treatment system “. Why don’t the two of you come today?.

      • Debbie, when was this study done that you refer to and can you post a link to it?
        And has Tom paid a visit to you as he indicated or is he still putting you off?
        He doesn’t have the courage to find out the real truth of your situation.

        It would blow all his theories and so-called truths to pieces…
        Let us know if Tom and his buddies finally show up..

  14. I don’t see any mention of the “1,000 foot rule”. This is supposedly what prevented anything being done to correct problems in 2008

  15. sorry to say But I live in The so called Box of Dimock as for Cabot oil and gas Blowing smoke up others that do not have a clue in the real world of Susquehanna county !
    Cabot oil and gas has Payed off every state and local person to say How Great they Realty are now From the DEP ! that has pushed Autos off our Land after testing our water well at the Morcom Grosso land to any one with power to help the People with bad water ! They use the game of Fast testing or no testing at all on the water wells that are Bad now moody The co that test the water for Cabot will start off testing 8 hours a day for 5 days a week Then after a year cut that Back to a fast stop and test not taking more then ten min. top never taking off the water wells head presser then in tern Cabot looks great after dealing with the Games they play its 8 years now and still get know place But Water they Bring us each day like they are doing us the Greatest fever ever !
    sorry Cabot take the 350k offer and Pond that up yours
    You Took our way of life You Owe us more then that just for Dealing with all the Lyes From You people Dealing with all the Game you have played on us as for playing me against kim Grosso you asked for it and you shall see John Smalko Andy Philip let see just how well you all understand it was your contract made by Cabot to never set foot on this land ! you have took advantage of our trust that Cabot may do the Right Thing ! Not one person ever gave two sheets About us lets see how it all plays out with the attorney Generals office now Even Joe the water guy you had Fired Has handed over all your Emails & all other things you have done to us the People now as for you making us the people out as the lye’s lets see if the Courts look at it in the same way Facts do not lye You new and we all new This cood happen if you did more work in our area …..Now its time to up your Anny Andy 350k is penny’s for the suffering and stress you have made us deal with the last 8 years !

    • Definitely right!

      Our lease/addendums have never been honored.

      Bogus “treatment systems”. There should be a Lemon Law!! No warranties No nothing.

      You don’t ever want one of these so called “treatment systems “. The dep claims this is a proper fix. Lol. Dep doesn’t follow their own regulations & allows lease/addendums to not be honored. Now it seems the gas co & dep have decided we agreed to pay for it. NOT! Neither will provide the document we supposedly signed either.

      Hopefully the attny general does their job.

      I seriously doubt the dep or Gas company lawyers would be dealing with brown water, trespassing,lease & addendums that are not honored etc.

      And to think the dep let them back in the “box” & then the water turned brown, started bubbling & sputtering again. But dep & gas co don’t even acknowledge it.

      We’d love to meet u & compare notes.

      Tom can give u my email address & phone #.

      • Exactly right ..Ken and you and others speak truth…
        But gas lovers and money lovers will never agree with you until they get hit with the contamination and even then some stay quiet…
        More will come out and then the truth will be revealed…
        Now Karen Orlando can further insult me since I won’t agree with her version of the “truth”.

  16. Hey Tom & Vic. Are you two ever gonna come look at this moldy disgusting not working p o s “treatment system “?

    What is it that the dep regulations actually say was to be done here opposed to what was actually done or not done?

  17. Make sure you bring Phil Levasseur with you too since I’m told he was so involved in all this. Oddly enough I don’t recall meeting him or him ever being here.

    I’m sure you’ll all be more than happy to drink up a big glass of the water. (Even tho the epa & others said not to. If I remember right we were told it was only ok to use IF the “treatment system “ (if that’s what it actually is) is properly working.

    We can all go over our lease & it’s addendums that haven’t/aren’t being honored too.

    You can bring someone from the dep who is actually knowledgeable about all this too. I’d love to see you all drink a great big glass.

    The dep can bring the list of complaints sent into them that they haven’t acted on & they & Phil can bring all the paperwork that altered our lease/it’s addendums since we were unaware of it as well as all the info on the gw vistas/methane migration study that was allegedly done here since we didn’t know about that either.

    Look forward to seeing all of you soon.( you can bring your own glasses).

  18. You have been so rude,mean,nasty etc to us. You have trespassed how many times? You refused to leave claiming YOU had the right to be on my property. You even had the gaul to tell me to leave.

    You have sat in front of my home how many times taking videos of it & us?

    You have sent reporters to scream & yell at me & pound on my door. You were reported to the police & I was under the impression you were being charged but somehow it didn’t happen.

    You believed the liars. You & your ilk & the liars you hung out with & believed caused so much pain & suffering for me & my family.

    So you are aware we will be abandoning the home we built because of people like you & because of the improper way the gas company & the Dep have been conducting themselves & continue to.

    There is no justice & no-one to hold them accountable for their actions or inactions. It is disgusting & appalling.

    If you actually know some actual people who are knowledgeable & able to do something then possibly we would speak to them. NOT the fake no nothing liars that show up.

    Pennsylvania is a commonwealth unfortunately it isn’t treated as so. No one cares. Dep& the gas company refuse to have a meeting with us. There is no oversight.

    As for the “treatment system “. Read the dep regulations & our lease & addendums it isn’t what regulations say & what we agreed to. We shouldn’t have had to have it here.

    It is disgusting that dep decided this was a fix then admitted they knew nothing about the “treatment systems “ & sent the Culligan man to look at it. Culligan was appalled & unable to understand it. It is appalling that dep didn’t/doesn’t have a clue what the costs are & doesn’t care & now they have decided we are on the hook for it. This was Not the deal.

    No warranty No lemon law No company to stand behind it. No company or dep that kept track of anything that was done here or the costs associated with it. Nothing Nothing at all. What a joke.

    I seriously doubt that dep employees or gas company lawyers would be treated like this or made to deal with this.

    How many water tests were done on the “provided water” yet made to look like it was the actual well water.? How many times was our well run out of water & we were left with Nothing at all & we were left to deal with it?

    What happened again in February/March of this year? Why has Nothing been done?

    How would you like it if I trespassed on your property with cameras taking videos & pictures yelled at you sent people to pound on your door & treated you like s***?

    You do have some valid information however you don’t live here & you don’t know the entire truth.

    Unfortunately it seems you chose to believe a few liars

    Now all the sudden you decide to make an attempt to be nice?

    YOU & your ilk aren’t welcome here. Stop taking videos of us & stop sending people to our home.

    This isn’t a commonwealth we aren’t/haven’t been treated properly. You have no clue what we have been put thru or had to deal with since 2008 & continuing. This is appalling & unprofessional to say the very least.

    For all the people who will comment on this. We didn’t want to sign a lease. We were told we were the very last ones on our road. We were told if we didn’t sign we would prevent everyone else from receiving royalties & everyone would know who prevented them from getting royalties. We were also told all the gas would be taken from under the property anyway & there was Nothing we could do about it.

    We actually attempted to work with the gas company & dep to let them attempt to correct the issues that were not here prior to drilling & were caused by the dep & gas company. We did this at a time when most people refused.

    Unfortunately for us it doesn’t seem things were/are/or will be done properly & No one cares & the legal system doesn’t work.

    Go back to your vomitorium.

    • The only person I can think of now after what you wrote ,
      may be Debbie Maye of Carter Rd., Dimock..
      are you Debbie Maye?
      I didn’t imagine you are suffering so much even from the DEP and the gas company which would be Cabot Oil and Gas.

      If you are still so dissatisfied, after getting a treatment system and bottled water from Cabot since about 2008 for your water issues, and need to move,
      then reveal it to any reputable reporter.
      I can give you two names, Mike Rubinkam, AP reporter,
      who has written about Dimock
      and Tom Wilbur of Press Connects who has written and investigated Dimock.

      Reveal what is happening and has happened to you and let the world know.

      And sounds like Cabot has not been able to correct your problems.

      And you can’t be the only ones with these issues.
      There’s others on Carter Road and beyond and in other towns in our County.
      You’ve been so quiet for years, I thought you were satisfied with the fixes by Cabot.

      Also contact the State Attorney Generals Office, who have investigators getting statements and evidence from people in our county and other counties to show possible criminal activity of the gas industry in our county and elsewhere.

      I have the contact names if you need them.
      Or call the State AG Office and see if they can refer you to the investigators.
      State AG has investigated western Pa. and has had a grand jury look over the evidence and charges on the gas companies out there are forthcoming.

      I live in the county and lived for a time in Brooklyn next door to Dimock and Lenox where the main horrors have occurred and visited many folks and heard their accounts and got the info out and been exposing this Industry for about ten years.
      I’ve been in court eleven times answering charges by the gas industry, paid fines and the last two charges of 2017 were dismissed by Judge Legg.
      I’m doing my part on my own to expose this Industry since I saw the first rig on a farm in Dimock and since I visited your home and your ailing animals and seen the contaminated water at your home and many others. I was shocked and appalled at what I witnessed.

      Sad, you need to condemn me for doing my citizen duty to help my neighbors, county and State from the abuses of the gas industry.

      May you consider coming forth and being transparent about what happened to you and your family and animals.

  19. how cruel and mean of you to speak like this.
    are you speaking to me?

    I have no idea what you are talking about and have no knowledge of doing what you claim I did to you.

    And I can’t figure out who you are, hiding behind your fake name.

    If you have been mistreated, I am sorry for that.

    And sorry you can not be helped.

    Ray Kemble is in court now and has new lawyers and hopefully, they can expose the lies and misdeeds in our county and especially with those that promote the gas and malign all of us who have been exposing the industry and their harms..

  20. Also, Debbie, when you speak to the AG Office and tell your story, you can reveal everything that happened from Cabot’s drilling and fracking near your home

    even if you signed a non-disclosure agreement, even if you took a settlement,
    you can reveal Cabot’s harm to the AG.

    Don’t be afraid and just let them know.

    This needs to be known.

    And Tom Shepstone, who is an avid supporter of Cabot and the Gas Industry, won’t be able to help…

    Wish you well in your dire situation.

    Whatever I did near your home, I did from the road or the couple of feet on the grass near the road, which I consider a right of way…..sorry to disturb you years ago to get the truth out.

    May things work out better for you soon.

  21. Unfortunately it appears you are unable to remember the things YOU have done.

    I have no idea where it is that you get your information on water provided to people but you are Very Very WRONG.

    Perhaps your statement that says “I thought”
    Speaks volumes.

    While you do have Some accurate information You Have Lots of WRONG information. Possibly if you made better choices/picked & chose who you spoke/speak with instead of getting information from inaccurate sources or dishonest people.

    I suggest you do your homework and stop spreading False information.

    If you conducted yourself properly perhaps you wouldn’t be thought of the way you are. Or have the disgusting reputation you do.

    YOU should treat people the way you would want them to treat you!

  22. I thought Tom had a rule that people have to use legal names here – it only applied to me.

    With all due respect Debbie – Vera watched as Cabot lied and worked daily to further harm families after they polluted their water. Vera spent her time trying to help. You may not like how she did it – but you did no better helping your neighbors.

    I’ve done much research in the area and can tell you – none of the victims I have talked to are lying.

    CABOT lies – and Tom supports their lies – if you know of any victims you think are lying post the facts – lets hear it.

  23. I hear your upset and frustration.
    I believe you have been harmed and your family and animals and your water.
    I believe that you have not been protected properly by our government, DEP, EPA.
    I am sorry for that and for how you have been poorly treated since gas drilling came to our county.

    Can you tell me where I am wrong in any information I put out ?
    What can you correct it and tell me the facts ?
    What information on “water provided to people” is wrong?

    Have you received water from Cabot and for how long and is it bottled water or what?
    I understood that for years you have been receiving bottled water and have a treatment system in a shed outside provided by Cabot and maintained by Cabot like Bill Ely and others have.
    Is this true?
    if not can you tell us the correct information about your water issues.
    Has DEP found Cabot guilty of contaminating your water?

    Did I contaminate your water well and harm your animals or did Cabot and their drilling do that about ten years ago?

    Can you speak freely or are you silenced by Cabot and their non-disclosure, gag-order, NDA, non-disparagment agreements or whatever you call it?

    Cabot has silenced many after settling with them over damages.

    Do you believe it’s fair for Cabot or any gas company in our county to silence the citizens just because they pay out a settlement or buy their homes?

    I believe that gag-orders are unfair and take away our free-speech rights and need to be out-lawed.

    Is Cabot not still maintaining your treatment system and changing the expensive filters in the system?

    I’m not interested in or trying to hurt or harm you.
    I am interested in getting the information out about the damages and harms to our residents in our county and not just in Dimock but all over our county.

    Are you willing to expose what has happened to you by the gas industry or are you afraid to speak out?

    Cabot is the one with the most DEP Violations in our county with almost 1,000 Violations between two counties.
    should they still be allowed to operate freely in our county?

  24. Provided water, lease honored, maintenance, working treatment, methane migration study. No clue where you get your inaccurate info. Maybe you should file a rtk with the dep

    • I’ve filed for many RTKs from DEP and it cost hundreds of dollars. Not free to get information from our government.

      are you admitting to getting water from Cabot for years and up to now?
      are you admitting that you have a water treatment system in a outside shed and it’s provided for and maintained for years by Cabot and up to now?
      are you saying the treatment system works and is also smelly and not working….which is it?
      are you admitting that you are part of a methane migration study and that your water well was adversely impacted by gas drilling and specifically by Cabot Oil and Gas?
      are you admitting you have a non-disclosure agreement and took a large settlement and one of the largest settlements of the group of harmed landowners and can not talk about it to the public with specifics without Cabot’s lawyers jumping down your throat and charging you in court for contempt like Cabot is doing with Ray Kemble?
      So, tell me and us what is the “Inaccurate info” you claim is happening?
      And what actually did happen to you, your land, your water, your family, your animals?
      Do you have full freedom of speech, Debbie Maye, or have you been silenced like so many with legal threats and hush money?

      Can you come forward like Ray Kemble and tell the truth and the whole truth to the public and world?

      Or do you just want to bash me and others who have been exposing Cabot and the Gas Industry the past ten years ?

  25. only 3% , ummm…
    for some reason you don’t want to acknowledge the harms and the real lives impacted by this Industry
    the dozens of water wells contaminated in my county
    and the people hurt and harmed by this.
    Air, water, traffic, health impacts…..they won’t be able to hide all this forever….

    until, it happens to you, you have no clue.

    thankfully, the Gas Industry is being investigated by those willing to hear…

    https://stateimpact.npr.org/pennsylvania/2019/05/02/in-pa-an-echo-of-the-fracking-boom-prosecutors-eye-potential-environmental-crimes-heres-a-closer-look-at-the-effort/?fbclid=IwAR0aiITIeoGxnkKZYeaJFKMsLtNHmEINxuV8dHPvnLgjlx_LFpORuCdfIYM

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